How Twentysomethings Influence Collective Destiny: The View From Brazil

Here’s the latest post from Gian Paul, Astrology Mundo’s “Brazil bureau chief.”

It’s not easy to be certain exactly how astrological mechanisms work, or collective destiny, for that matter.

Astrologers study transits, ingresses of planets into new signs, and the geometrical aspects between planets. But that does not really explain much about the forces at play. To drive a car, one does not actually need to know how a crankcase functions.

I can imagine that astrological influences work somehow like “cloud computing,” which is the latest fashion in information technology, so much so that even old IBM has jumped on board.

I wonder if in the “astrological cloud,” the hardware is not actually the whole of humanity. Sociologists, anthropologists, psychologists, and many other students of human nature have a notion that there are “vintage years.”

To verify my hunches, I looked up various generations over the past 100 years, astrologically, that is. In an effort to be brief, let’s consider two important historical events of the last 100 years: the recent Presidential elections in the U.S. and the Great Depression of the 1930s.

My premise is that the people “who count,” i.e. the collective ferment of any society, are those who are aged 23 to 29, approaching their first Saturn return. It was this group that was behind the revolutionary uprisings in 1968 in Paris and Prague. Even though students get credit for fomenting the rebellion, they were actually the followers.

In the case of the recent U.S. elections, twentysomethings voted overwhelmingly for Barack Obama and changed the course of history. In light of this fact, I have examined the demographic cohort born between January 1980 and the end of 1985, and discovered the Plutos of this group range from 20 degrees of Libra to 7 degrees of Scorpio. Natal Neptune for this Class of ’80 to ’85 is placed between 21 degrees of Sagittarius and 4 degrees of Capricorn.

From my calculations, these people represent 10% of the active, decision-making population, leaving out children, adolescents, and the infirm. They have recently experienced or are about to have Pluto conjunct their natal Neptune.

They are also experiencing collectively a square of transiting Uranus to their natal Neptune and a trine of Neptune to their natal Plutos.

Pluto conjunct Neptune restricts dreams and ease of comfort. For anyone with natal Neptune in Sagittarius, life is more than having a nice house. It’s about an exciting job, travel, fun, and aspirations.

When Uranus squares Neptune, dreams will be shaken up. Things won’t be “normal” anymore for quite some time. Happy hours may occur at odd times of the day, or not at all.

A trine of Neptune to natal Pluto should leave people’s hope intact, especially now that Neptune is in Aquarius. But there will be surprises, very Aquarian, for certain.

Now, to turn our attention to the Great Depression: People who were between 23 to 29 in the early 1930 had natal Neptune between 17 and 28 degrees of Cancer and natal Pluto between 19 and 28 degrees of Gemini.

On Jan. 1, 1930, Pluto was conjunct Neptune for a large segment of the age class in question. That’s identical to what’s the case today. Time will tell what the future holds for the latest group of twentysomethings, but there is no doubt that they hold great influence over our society today.

Editor’s note: My question for Gian Paul is: Isn’t there always a generation of twentysomethings who are about to get Pluto on their Neptune, regardless of what’s happening in the world? The fact that this is happening now and did before at other times in history cannot possibly indicate any causality, can it?

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One comment on “How Twentysomethings Influence Collective Destiny: The View From Brazil

  1. Monica: It’s not easy to gather statistical evidence of transits of such slow-moving planets as Pluto and Neptune. Combine this with a segment of the population experiencing Pluto transiting their natal Neptune when reaching the age of their first Saturn return, I found only two occasions for this occurence over the last 100 years.

    And in the first case (1930s), there was economic depression. In the second, right now, serious concern that it may happen again.

    For interest, but its not exactly the same type of constellation, people who were born between 1890-1895, and had Neptune/Pluto conjunct at their birth (early degrees of Gemini), were BORN under an unfavourable constellation. By the time they reached their first Saturn return, they had to face WW I and the Spanish Flu epidemic. Three of my grand uncles died of the latter in 1918/1919.

    André Barbault, a well known French astrologer, studied major planetary cycles to end up with amazing results. Only his cyclical time span with the most telling effects is around 500 years. Not very useful to understand what’s in store for next year or so.

    PS Monica in your example of when you were playing “cat on hot roofs,” you were age 20 or so. Not approaching your first Saturn return. Unless you practiced that variant of sport for 10 years…

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