My commenter Cynthia has just sent me a link to a site that appears to have an official birth certificate for John McCain. According to this official-looking State Dept. document, McCain was born at 6:25 p.m., not 9 a.m., as reported by many astrologers, and not 11 a.m., as recalled by his mom in a Mother’s Day ad.
The birth certificate shows McCain being born in Colon, Panama, which is not part of the Panama Canal Zone like Cocosolo, the birth town that most astrologers had been using. Evidently, this could have political implications, but I’m out of my depth on citizenship issues and the Presidency, so I’m going to refrain from comment on this matter.
I don’t know how long this has been floating around the Web. Cynthia, thanks so much for sending the link to McCain’s birth certificate.
The 6:25 p.m. time of birth puts McCain’s Virgo Sun and other Virgo planets — Neptune and Venus — in the seventh house of partnerships. He’s got an early Pisces rising and a 2 degree Aquarius Moon with this chart, available here courtesy of Astrodienst.
The seventh house emphasis shows a guy who was “married” to the Navy (Neptune) for many years and is the spouse of an heiress (Venus) to a beer distributorship (Neptune).
Jupiter in Sagittarius moves to the Midheaven with the latest birth time. Lots of luck and good fortune, though transiting Saturn in Virgo is raining on this parade right now as it squares Jupiter.
What Jupiter in Sag “angular” brings to the fore is McCain’s thrill-seeking — whether playing daredevil games in the air as a Navy pilot, chasing women, or gambling. As many observers have noted, he impulsively approved Palin as his running mate without vetting her credentials (I’m skeptical that he actually chose her), in essence rolling the dice on an unknown quantity.
To get a feel for McCain the risk-taker, check out this passage from Tim Dickinson’s piece in Rolling Stone:
“I enjoyed the off-duty life of a Navy flier more than I enjoyed the actual flying,” McCain writes. “I drove a Corvette, dated a lot, spent all my free hours at bars and beach parties.” McCain chased a lot of tail. He hit the dog track. Developed a taste for poker and dice. He picked up models when he could, screwed a stripper when he couldn’t.
Off duty on his Mediterranean tours, McCain frequented the casinos of Monte Carlo, cultivating his taste for what he calls the “addictive” game of craps. McCain’s thrill-seeking carried over into his day job. Flying over the south of Spain one day, he decided to deviate from his flight plan. Rocketing along mere feet above the ground, his plane sliced through a power line. His self-described “daredevil clowning” plunged much of the area into a blackout.
Dickinson makes the point that McCain was famous for “stalling out” while in the air and having to parachute from his plane or make a crash-landing. Interesting that the new chart has earthbound Saturn in Pisces squaring that high-flying Jupiter. (You can read Dickinson’s entire profile of McCain here.)
Saturn sits in the first house, where it’s currently being opposed by transiting Saturn in Virgo and is close to a conjunction with transiting Uranus in Pisces.
Other astrologers and political pundits are going to slice and dice this new data much better than I can. But, off the cuff, I can tell you that with the early Moon in Aquarius, McCain will be getting a nice boost from Jupiter when it moves into the sign of the Water Bearer on Jan. 6.
I get a 2 degree aquarius moon with that time. Interesting, Sara Palin’s moon is 4 degrees aquarius. They both have parts of fortune at 2 leo. How weird is that!
Sheris — You’re absolutely right. In my zeal to get this up ASAP, I looked at the chart very quickly and wrote that the Moon was in Cap, when it’s in Aquarius. I’ve amended my post, but I’ve approved your comment to let the world know you’re the one who got it right! Thanks a bunch, Monica
Zeeks, Monica, thanks for posting a heads-up at my blog!
This change will have to be studied, that’s for sure, esp since a Sun Vir-Moon AQ combo is a scientific blend..does that seem right to anyone? McCain a scientist?
This is a quick peek, of course, but here are the Sun-Moon Images for this ‘new’ combo:
“Staring into a microscope, a scientist sees the past and future writ large…Aliens land and embark on building a new and improved world order.”
Now you know me – the second one is somewhat believable but the ‘scientist’ persona eludes me.
Could this new birth time be a fluke put out to confuse astrologers and others? Yet this combo does give a woodenness emotionally so there are some possibilities here…will just have to study more…
Yes, Jupiter certainly will be boosting both candidates if both have Aquarian Moons…but McCain has been running for president for 10 years and Moon in Cap certainly fits that archetype, doesn’t it?
And: the Sun Vir-Moon AQ blend is shared natally with H.G. Wells, and with Margaret Sanger who pioneered Planned Parenthood!
But Sun Vir-Moon CAP is the blend of J.P. Morgan Jr, and of Augustus, first emperor of Rome. (Thought I’d just mention that.)
So it’s Earth-Earth vs Earth-AIR…really?
Earth-Air gives a very rational personality who plans, then acts. But if this is his correct birth time, I suppose McCain’s POW experiences could explain his…quirkiness – and the unpredictability we’ve been seeing.
His campaign has been said since the start to have little planning involved…well, sorry to go on and on here but this is a stunner! ;p
Keep me posted if you may, and i’ll check back with ya tomorrow, jude
Jude — This birth certificate looks pretty authentic to me. I question why anyone would put a false time up for McCain. I don’t think the conspiracists are into astrology.
In fact, I’d say this document looks a lot more authentic than the Hawaii birth certificate circulating for Obama. The Saturn opposition to Venus could give the same characteristics that we’ve been attributing to a Capricorn Moon — the long race for the Presidency, etc.
In terms of science, I don’t know much about McCain’s interests, but you do have to have some scientific knowledge or at least technical expertise to be a Navy officer.
Interesting that Jimmy Carter was also a navy officer and was President the last time Saturn was in Virgo. (Both are observations without any real connection. Certainly, Saturn in Virgo has nothing to do with the Navy, though it does rule members of the military and other government employees in a mundane chart.)
— Monica
stellarinsights108.blogspot.com, a web site by San Francisco astrologer, David Cook, has the link to johnmccain.domintes.us the site with John McCain’s birth certificate.
Sheris — I can’t get that link to work. What else is in there? Is there a http://www.? is it “dominates” instead of domintes? — Monica
http://johnmccain.dominates.us/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=145
This works on my husband’s computer.
Sheris
Thanks. I finally saw it when I went to David Cook’s site first and clicked. Thanks for calling the new birth town to my attention, but as I say in my amended post, I’m out of my depth on citizenship issues so I’m going to let others run with that ball.
Sorry about the misspelling.
I don’t understand why this information regarding McCain’s birth hasn’t received any coverage.
I’m thankful for the internets and sites like yours.
Sheris
So the McCain BC plot is thinning? ;p
Monica, the Venus/Saturn aspect as you say could account for a lot. An astrologer with time for rectification should check this out…funny it’s come out so late in the game though esp with the latest Obama birth place flap.
Sheris — I’m thankful for readers like you and Cynthia who bring important information to my attention. Thanks to everyone! — Monica
Hi Jude,
Thanks for the quote” Staring into a microscope a scientist sees the past & the future writ large… Aliens land and EMBARK on building A NEW WORLD ORDER ??!!! CHILLING!!!
I saw a early Q&A with Mcain in AZ or TX with the Minutemen, discussing Border Fences and illegals (as nausium), and he actually let it slip, his idea of control is BIOMETRICs. (I wish I could find it on video, that would be a wake up call to everyone) THAT’s Micro chipping the population !!! Freaks me out, the damage he and Pallin could do.
Afterall she DickCheney’s and Dubya Bush’s LUV CHILD !!!
LEts’ get real BRAZIL… MCAIN”S Got DEMENTIA, caused by PTSD!! Can we say REAGAN only Worst. Cindy bankrooled the wrong guy.
Commander ( and Endtimer Christist) David Petreaus has eyes on 2012 whitehouse too. Anybody done his chart?